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Iraqi Expat

Sunday, June 19, 2005

Despisable... Despicable... Disgusting...

Someone called "Anonymous" commented on one of my old entries, "Why Harith Al Thari is not being arrested?". His comments are way too nauseating.
I came across this blog while doing a bit of research about Harith Al Thari. As a British citizen who has visited Iraq three times during the past year as a volunteer in UN aid missions and currently residing in the United Arab Emirates, I can honestly say the irony in all this are comments such as the above. May I ask all of you, including Ahmed, where do you get your information regarding Iraq from? If its from news media hailing from the two major countries backing this war, then Im afraid you are burrying your heads in the sand.
So what are you saying here? That the mainstream media is backing the war and showing a rosy picture? How funny? I've never heard this before; this is a first. And to answer your question, I get the information from people in Iraq, friends and relatives, from Iraqi news sites, Iraq TV stations, from Iraqi friends who have family in Iraq and last from the mainstream media!
Ever wondered why "insurgent" videos are banned in western media? You would think if such videos depict the killings of innocenct civilians then it would be an ace of spades in the hands of the American and British governments in their never ending propaganda campaigns. Truth is, it is clear and evident that the so called "insurgents" take the utmost care not to hurt civilians in any "resistance" operation.
Come again? Utmost care? Who the hell do you think you are talking to here? Someone who just got interested in a country called Iraq and looked up some information about it, visited it a couple of times and became an expert? How do you know they take utmost care not to hurt civilians? Did you work with them? Did you talk to them? Did they take you hostage? Did they break you eardrum? Or ribs? Did they beat you so hard that you told your family to either pay the ransom or come in your place? Did they decapitate you or one of your friends? Were you a bystander in a market when one of your crazy friends blew himself up? Do you even know why they are fighting? Do you?

And as for the videos, I said before what I think. Anyway, back to your comment.
It is funny that when the US army blows up a wedding party it is passed as collateral damage. But it is sad that you all buy into it when atleast over 20 thousand civilians die because of US and British "collateral damage".
Which wedding party, this?
Dont get me wrong, Im not for terrorism, but I certainly would not go against the God given, and International Law given right to resist occupation and defend your country.
Oh really? You are not for terrorism? Wow! If you are not, then what does one who supports terrorism sounds like? Right to resist occupation and defend your country, how? By killing innocents, Iraqis, and all those that you disagree with even though you are minority? Is that the "resistance" you are talking about? And what about the Iraqis right to live and to choose? What if eight and half million Iraqi do not want violence?
As for those Iraqi's that do die, the striking majority of them are those who have collaborated with the enemy, atleast according to Iraqis. I am sure if this has happened to America, or Britain, we would not be siding with those of us who would ally ourselves with the invading forces. Or do you think that those British who have secretly supported Nazi Germany are not traitors?
According to which Iraqis? Please tell me, because all the Iraqi expats, their friends, relatives and families who live in Iraq, and my friends and relatives in Iraq do not think so! So which Iraqis have been talking to?

"do you think that those British who have secretly supported Nazi Germany are not traitors?" Of course they are traitors, and the best example of such treason today is George Galloway. It seems that you are holding the wrong end of the stick! How about those Germans who secretly worked with the British - or with others - against the Nazis? Or those who helped build Germany after the war? Do you think they are traitors?
Three visits, hundreds of Iraqis from all walks of life, and I have yet to meet one, just one, who supports the American occupation. Let me go further, I have yet to meet one Iraqi inside of Iraq that uses the word "insurgents", no, they are the "resistance".
Three visits? Hundreds of Iraqis? From all walks of life? You sure knew your way around Iraq, didn't you? And you haven't met one? Okay, here are two. But the question is who supports your "resistance"? How many Iraqis want violence? And all those you met called them "resistance"? What can I say, you sure know who to go out with! Here are some Iraqis who live in Iraq and disagree with you and here are some responses from Iraqis.
Let us get over our bias, Al Thari is loved by Sunnis and Shia's alike, specially those more aligned with Muqtada Al Sadr.
Please, be serious, ok? And next time you open your mouth, make sure you understand what you are saying and you can back it up! Don't think that by going three times to Iraq, you became an expert of the Iraqi society and conflicts! Men far better than you, are still seeking knowledge about Iraq, even though they know far more than you do. Do you even know what al Thari does or did? It is funny that you aligned him with Muqtada al-Sadr, because both men are despised by most Sunnis and Shias alike. By the way, don't forget to include this joke in your "research" about al-Thari.
I still wonder why anti-US-UK protest of over 80 thousand Iraqi's in central Baghdad in December of 2004 was casually mentioned in our media, yet a small gathering of 100 Kurdish US backed peshmerga chanting for an autonomous state was plastered all over the news.
80 thousands? In December? In Central Baghdad? Where in Central Baghdad, be specific? I don't have any recollection of such a massive protest! Can someone, remind me here? But did you see the even larger demonstration in January all over Iraq? 8,456,266 went out and protest against violence and voted for a free and democratic Iraq, even though your "resistance" said that it will be a blood bath!
Even if my son was part of the colaition, I would call a spade a spade. Any soldier participating in this farce and unjust war does not die an hornorable death. I will never blame people for defending their own country.
I wish that you are in UAE because they stripped you out of your citizenship; but I know this is wishful thinking. You have just set a new record for being a despicable British citizen, if you really are British! All I can say to you is that you are a disgrace to Britain and you do not deserve to be a citizen of this country.
Time to get our heads out of the sand.
Look at the mirror when you say that. I am sick to my stomach.

13 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ahmad,
You destroyed his argument.
I would point out one more thing: If the elected Iraqi government asked the USA to leave Iraq, we would do so promptly.

Iraqi foreign minister Hoshya Zebari:
"We believe to complete the transitional process and build on the political achievement to date, we need the MNF to continue providing its essential contributions to our security," Zebari told the U.N. Security Council.
Coalition troops still are needed as Iraq builds a new government while struggling against insurgents "whose sole agenda is to destroy the ongoing political process," Zebari said.
"We look forward to the day when our forces are able to assume full responsibility for maintaining our national security - at which time there will be no need for the engagement of the MNF," the foreign minister said. "Until then, we need the continued presence of the MNF in Iraq."
...

June 19, 2005 2:14 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ahmad...This guy is an idiot. Resist what? Rebuilding?

I remember reading the comments of a Japanese man who lived in the Middle East as he commented on one of the blogs....

He said that in the Middle East..everywhere he went people asked him why the Japanese don't hate the Americans since they dropped the bomb on them. He explained that the Japanese accepted their part of it and worked to learn from the Americans and to rebuild their country. He advised Iraqis to do the same.

Now which guy...the idiot you are referring to or the Japanese man...has MORE experience?

I am so sorry that Iraqis have to endure all this idiocy. It is cruel and sick.

thinker

June 19, 2005 4:44 pm  
Blogger Louise said...

My guess is idiots like him only toughen the resolve of most Iraqis to carry this movement through to its completion. Every time I hear this sort of nonsense coming from some tired, despirate leftist, it conjures up an image in my mind of washed up bitter old revolutionaries who are still clinging to their bankrupt ideology years after the rest of the planet came to the conclusion it was completely foolish.

For shame, Ahmad. Don't you know should be serving his agenda. What's wrong with you? /sarcasm

June 19, 2005 5:16 pm  
Blogger Osama - Iraqi said...

(Truth is, it is clear and evident that the so-called "insurgents" take the utmost care not to hurt civilians in any "resistance" operation.)

Is this guy on this planet?

June 19, 2005 6:41 pm  
Anonymous Annie said...

You did a great job of tearing this anonymouses "crap" (best word I could think of) apart...it is just so unfortunate that there really is no cure for some peoples ignorance. So many of these leftists think that siding with anyone they perceive to be an underdog (anyone who goes against American "might") is some kind of noble thing. And they really don't give a damn if Iraq and the good people of Iraq are hurt, just so they can think they are helping an underdog, just like Code Pink.

June 19, 2005 9:03 pm  
Blogger dcat said...

Ahmad,

Yes you know that this is very hard for some people to give up a loser child because they created it regardless. However I am with you in calling a spade a spade! I would disown it if it brought on embarrassment to me!

Good job Ahmad!

June 20, 2005 12:56 am  
Blogger Brian H said...

You gave that maroon way, way, more time and attention than he deserved. Such fools are best ignored; there's no possible way to penetrate their witless ignorance.

June 20, 2005 8:59 am  
Anonymous JD said...

Your commenter states he is "a British citizen who has visited Iraq three times during the past year as a volunteer in UN aid missions and currently residing in the United Arab Emirates." This claim strikes me as odd. The UN pulled up stakes in Iraq and left after the so called resistance blew the UN headquarters all to hell with a truck bomb killing the director in chief. I was unaware that it had returned. If your commenter is not putting us on and is in fact a UN employee based in UAE, it should not be impossible to track down which agency or division. Any intervention by the UN is apt to be so limited in scope due to logistical and security concerns arising from being based out of UAE that is should make any search for UN activity in Iraq easier to research. It's possible you could attach a name to your "anonymous" commenter. Regards.

June 20, 2005 9:53 pm  
Anonymous Karim Elsahy said...

If you havent gotten a chance to do so already come check out my site. It pushes for a new Pan Arabism. Let me know what you think.

June 21, 2005 1:56 pm  
Blogger Goesh said...

Very, very well spoken! There is nothing that can be added to your response to that anonymous person. Keep up the good work and God bless Iraq and the Iraqi people!

June 21, 2005 6:36 pm  
Blogger BosqueBrawler said...

Ahmad

You tore him a new one, all right.

Numbnuts like that guy are all over the place, don't let them get you blood pressure up, bud. Thanks for blogging all this time - I enjoy your commentary and viewpoint.

June 22, 2005 9:43 pm  
Blogger Nancy said...

I agree with Brian H...I think this guy just wanted to get some attention from people and he sure did (not in a good way though).

June 23, 2005 6:02 am  
Anonymous DWMF said...

Ahmad,

This was not a Brit. His phraseology is not modern British English. This was probably an Arab student who can speak English fluently but not as a true native. He was a troll and it was a waste of time dignifying him with a reply.

Oh well, you live and learn.

June 24, 2005 3:13 pm  

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